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Post  Snake on Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:42 pm

hehe so you me and marc r gonna get along fine Razz

but i can assure you the f-19 is 100% fake
the aurora is 100% fake
the TR-3A Black Manta is still a project
the F-37 Talon Is 100% Fake

- F-19: Some say it's the F-117 (take a look at the story of the "117" designation on the net, it does have a point) or simple disinformation/public sensationalism;

- Aurora: There's no actual proof, but the actual "Aurora" might simply be a prototype of an hypersonic recon aircraft (which would probably replace the U-2 and SR-71);

- TR-3A Black Manta:
I'd say it would be a creative way to manufacture a new generation of actually "affordable" (cost-effective) B-2's (each B-2A must cost something between $2.3 to 2.5 billion dollars or even more right now, it's price is unthinkable, even for such a military power such as the US, so the Manta would probably take care of many of these problems);

- F/A-37 Talon:
Fictional plane from the 2005 movie Stealth.

F/A-37 mockup on the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72):





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Re: Stratagy???

Post  James100 on Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:51 pm

Actualy there is proof (which is highly classified)

The Proof:

Do You know the orginal aurora from cnc gen
EA Started that after a rumor in california seeing a triangular shaped craft
the rumor spreaded and spreaded and wrong info began to spread on sites etc...
then there was a personal interview to assure if there is suck a plane that can fly for mach 6 to 20

but everyone assured that they haven't got a thing about the aurora

the aurora's images that everyone's sees them are computer generated


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Post  Snake on Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:54 pm

if the US don't reconsider the f-117 they will sell them

Probably (if it is for NATO/Allied countries), or they'll be destroyed like YB-49 (1940's):

This is a famous YB-49 pic, they are lined up for destruction Sad Sad Sad (I could keep one Laughing )



The YB-49 served a great purpose as inspiration for the modern B-2 Spirit.

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Post  James100 on Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:55 pm

What i meant by iwas there I was still a student coz the interview was in 2003
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Post  James100 on Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:04 pm

Actualy In A Way
The YB-49 Is the B-2A Same Design ( But Clearely more modern )
Like The P61 And the YF-23 Same Supporting Design
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Post  Snake on Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:17 pm

James100 wrote:Actualy there is proof (which is highly classified)

The Proof:

Do You know the orginal aurora from cnc gen
EA Started that after a rumor in california seeing a triangular shaped craft
the rumor spreaded and spreaded and wrong info began to spread on sites etc...
then there was a personal interview to assure if there is suck a plane that can fly for mach 6 to 20 ( I was there :p ) [1 of the guys]

but everyone assured that they haven't got a thing about the aurora

the aurora's images that everyone's sees them are computer generated

Yeah, the actual "Aurora" is a very known name the general public uses, the "no proof" part I was referring was the fact that it may have been "officially" designated currently designated as such.

"The news date back to 1990, the magazine Aviation Week & Space Technology first broke the news that the term 'Aurora' was inadvertently released in the 1985 U.S. budget, as an allocation of $455 million dollars for "Black aircraft PRODUCTION" in FY 1987."

"According to Aviation Week, Aurora referred to a group of exotic aircraft projects, and not to one particular airframe. Funding of the project allegedly reached $2.3 billion in fiscal 1987, according to a 1986 procurement document obtained by Aviation Week. However, according to Ben Rich, former director of Lockheed's Skunk Works (now the Lockheed Advanced Development Company), Aurora was the code name for the B-2 stealth bomber competition funding, and no such hypersonic plane ever existed."

That is where the famous "Aurora" name spread out to the general public (it was an instant hit), EA used it to create that fictional Generals Aurora bomber.

There are many sightseeings of hypersonic planes through the 80's and 90's (which people automatically associated with the "Aurora"), Lockheed Martin Skunk Works might have created this plane (since they are the "biggies" in experimental aircraft and created some of the USAF's most advanced planes).

In late 2007, DARPA and the USAF signed documents which agreed to start to build a Mach-6 UAV called the "Blackswift".

I'd say that the Blackswift will be a prototype for perfecting the next generation of hypersonic planes.

Falcon HTV-3X:





DARPA computer-animated video of the aircraft:



The DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) Falcon Project (Force Application and Launch from Continental United States) is now public news and publicly conformed to have the objective to create hypersonic aircraft (the Aurora might have been a testbed for busting criticism of Hypersonic fighters and to give credibility to start the Falcon Project).

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Post  Snake on Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:13 pm

According to Aviation Week, Aurora referred to a group of exotic aircraft projects, and not to one particular airframe. Funding of the project allegedly reached $2.3 billion in fiscal 1987, according to a 1986 procurement document obtained by Aviation Week (...)

That is why I don't say there is an actual, unique "Aurora" aircraft (model), but rather a project or program to test advanced prototypes (it was probably done to prove the point of hypersonic fighters), pure speculation though.

Back in the 80's the Cold War frictions were still very active, the US sure did not wanted the Soviets to know the info on those hypersonic fighters.

James100 wrote:What i meant by iwas there I was still a student coz the interview was in 2003
Still what's your Email?

Well, I don't use the mail too often, I would appreciate if you used the forum's Private Message System (since I visit the forum all the time, you can easily and much hastily contact me here).


James100 wrote:Actualy In A Way
The YB-49 Is the B-2A Same Design ( But Clearely more modern )
Like The P61 And the YF-23 Same Supporting Design

Exactly, and there are many others which have an "ancestor".

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Post  Marc15yo [Admin] on Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:17 pm

yo talking about email, i think i need to check mine out, i probably got like 1000 messages lol
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Post  Snake on Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:26 pm

lol! Me too, I mostly use mails to create accounts on sites, etc.

Each time I check the mail I got tons of messages specially Gamespot daily newspaper (which I use to get news on some particular games).

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Post  Marc15yo [Admin] on Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:44 pm

lol my current email marc15yo@hotmail.com is my spam free email. no newsletters, not registered to naything except some personal stuff like ebay and paypal.
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Post  Snake on Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:50 pm

I have a bunch of mails (specially to have several accounts on some online games Razz ).

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Post  Marc15yo [Admin] on Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:15 pm

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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:10 am

Sorry man the only reason i suggested**** is bcoz my private messaging isn't working
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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:40 am

well actualy it's not called the aurora
that's the fake one every body mistakes about it
every one knows it as aurora
the real name is "SR-91 BlackHole:


it can go between mach 6 and mach 9

The The Blackhole has a really interesting design

it's also gonna replace the SR-71 BlackBird
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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:29 am

Here is the budget story for the “priority” programs in 2009:
1. KC-X tanker, $900 million.
2. CSAR-X helicopter, $320 million.
3. Satellites, $8.6 billion.
4. F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, $3.4 billion.
5. New bomber, $0.
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About The Blackhole (The Aurora) aurora is just a secondary Name
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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:37 am

was the surprise the X-47 Pegasus??? Razz
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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:26 am

hey snake i you want there is a doc. about all the Current X-vehicles (Adobe Reader)

here is the link:
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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:50 am

The A-12 may be included in the navy after cancellation

r u ya gonna include it in your mod?
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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:52 pm

hey snake ya there Razz
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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:57 pm

hey guyz i suggest , to put on your site a chatting area

lol!
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Post  Snake on Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:11 pm

Cheers, I was posting a huge reply to your previous posts but my pc jammed and I had to reset affraid pale (due to memory shortage since my pc is basically full Razz ).

I'll re-reply to all the posts in a sec.

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Post  Snake on Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:13 pm

James100 wrote:hey guyz i suggest , to put on your site a chatting area

lol!

Yeah, we had a chatting area, but the program started to go crazy (auto-logging in people, start to lag the internet connection) so we had to remove it Sad

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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:19 pm

No worries bro it happens Razz
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Post  James100 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:21 pm

anw i posted lots of messages earlier (just notifying Razz )

BTW hehe i usualy an logged in on TAOW mor than you Razz :loll:
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Post  Snake on Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:32 pm

James100 wrote:well actualy it's not called the aurora
that's the fake one every body mistakes about it
every one knows it as aurora
the real name is "SR-91 BlackHole:


it can go between mach 6 and mach 9

The The Blackhole has a really interesting design

it's also gonna replace the SR-71 BlackBird

Yeah, the actual "Aurora" is the popular name, it certainly isn't the actual one (just like it was stated on the other news article I posted earlier). If the Aurora name was the actual name of the project they would have simply changed it to avoid public attention.

James100 wrote:Here is the budget story for the “priority” programs in 2009:
1. KC-X tanker, $900 million.
2. CSAR-X helicopter, $320 million.
3. Satellites, $8.6 billion.
4. F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, $3.4 billion.
5. New bomber, $0.

I'm specially curious to watch which new CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue) helicopter is the USAF going to choose, the current main candidates are the:

- AW-101 (previously known as the EH-101, aka "Merlin" as it is designated by the Portuguese Air Force and the British Royal Air Force).

- H-92 Superhawk Search and Rescue (SAR) variant:



- HH-47:



The HH-47 was selected by the USAF in late 2006, but there was a LOOOOOT of controversy (why the HH-47 was 'mysteriously' and almost automatically chosen to be the USAF's CSAR heli, and, of course, a huge, "over the head" budget which got over the limit...).


James100 wrote:was the surprise the X-47 Pegasus??? Razz

Maybe sunny , I'm going to post the new vehicle on the Vehicle Table (in the Member's Area) a bit later today. This particular UCAV I was referring to isn't the Pegasus though.

James100 wrote:hey snake i you want there is a doc. about all the Current X-vehicles (Adobe Reader)

here is the link:

Oooops, the link wasn't posted, was it this document?:
http://history.nasa.gov/monograph31.pdf

That document is very well detailed, very interesting.

James100 wrote:The A-12 may be included in the navy after cancellation

r u ya gonna include it in your mod?

You mean the A-12 Avenger II which was canceled in 1991?

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