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Post  AgustaBE on Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:36 am

hi guys,

i just want to ask if the MOAB(which i assume that it will be included in the mod)
will be dropped by a B2 bomber? Actually it should be dropped by a c-130 because its to big to fit in a bomber...



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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  James100 on Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:54 am

By The Way is the FOAB gonna be included
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Post  Snake on Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:46 pm

We're not 100% sure at this time, but the MOAB and FOAB might be the new "WMD" alternatives (which might replace the nukes, scuds and particle cannons).

If we're gonna include'em, then they'll be dropped by a heavy bomber (makes it look more dramatic and realistic Twisted Evil ).

Obviously, that these weapons would be only included as a "last resort" weapon (in case everything fails, DROP DA BOMB!!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Razz Razz ).

We wanted to include the BLU-82 Daisy Cutter, but since all of'em were used, we may include the MOAB as the US alternative.

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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  James100 on Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:54 pm

the daisy cutter also known as fuel air bomb Laughing

and btw is the tallboy gonna be included
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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  Snake on Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:14 pm

Exactly, actually, the FAB (Fuel-Air Bombs) have many other popular names (such as "Vacuum Bombs"). The main military designation is "Thermobaric Weapon".

TAOW will have several Thermobaric Weapons (used in conventional roles, an example is the Russian TOS-1, basically a big ass thermobaric-launching rocket launcher mounted on the hull of a T-72).

About the Tallboy, we aren't gonna use it (neither the Grand Slam), instead we are thinking of more "cutting-edge" alternatives Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  Marc15yo [Admin] on Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:52 am

you wont need such huge weapons like nukes. taow is supposed tactical

and u'll have enough weapons trust me, carpet bomb, heavy bombers. firepower will not be an issue
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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  James100 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:06 pm

will the carpet bomb realiastic one ( lotssssssssssss of bombs )
or just crappy one lines of 9 bombs (WW2 Style in ZH Razz )
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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  Snake on Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:52 pm

Just like the Tomahawk issue, ZH's carpet bombing can't compare with our new and manly 'C'arpet Bombing Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil lol!

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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  AgustaBE on Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:10 pm

hehe Twisted Evil

euh... about the carpet bomb...
Will we be able to choose whit whic aircraft the carpet bomb will be dilivered, because in some occasions a b-52 is good enough, but in other cases a b-1 or b-2 is required, (stealthy, faster...) if there's is many AA-defense for exemple ? Twisted Evil
I guess that the randomizer will do the job , but like i said in some cases it would be more interesting to use the b-2, maybe with more costs then...Question

And what about the bombs from the carpet bomb .... wil they be Mk 82's with high drag tails like this:

or like that one:


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Post  Snake on Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:30 pm

At this moment I think we are using both Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
There will be lots of bombers (and fighter/bombers) so there will be a looot of ordnance lol!

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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  AgustaBE on Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:15 am

i see...

but will we be able to choss for exemple : i want to carpet bomb but i want to use a B-2 since there are serveral AA-defenses, but i dont have fighters, helicopters or tanks to take them out Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  Snake on Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:09 pm

Yeah, if you have unlocked the B-2, you are free to use it at will (even without air support), in fact, the B-2 will be quite effective to bomb enemy anti-air fortified areas, if you can't detect targets, I think you'll be able to make the plane "loiter" around the battlefield until either you detect targets to bomb or it automatically leaves due to the lack of fuel.

The European Union and Russia will have some defensive special units particularly suited to detect enemy stealth fighters/bombers at long range (special radars).

Even though there won't be large Anti-Air launch platforms like S-400 or Patriots, there will be some units which will be able to use effective anti-air missiles which are perfect to target "unstealhed" bombers.

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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  AgustaBE on Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:59 am

nice !!!

also nice to hear that we can actually control the big bombers too !!!
will we be able to choose the quantity of the bombs we drop then(so from 1 bomb to carpet bomb Cool! Twisted Evil )

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Post  Snake on Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:57 pm

Yeah, I think we are gonna include a special "Hud button" which will allow the player to control the quantity of dropped bombs (a few bombs in several runs for enhanced accuracy or a large and destructive carpet bombing Twisted Evil ).

We have to modify the ZH bombers because these wouldn't be so effective in TAOW (specially due to the fact that there aren't any bases now), the classic ZH A-10 or Fuel Air Bomb strikes would be useless (slow aircraft), the moment they dropped the bombs, the enemy would be long gone from that location (moved to another area).

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Post  AgustaBE on Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:06 pm

Snake wrote:Yeah, I think we are gonna include a special "Hud button" which will allow the player to control the quantity of dropped bombs (a few bombs in several runs for enhanced accuracy or a large and destructive carpet bombing Twisted Evil ).

We have to modify the ZH bombers because these wouldn't be so effective in TAOW (specially due to the fact that there aren't any bases now), the classic ZH A-10 or Fuel Air Bomb strikes would be useless (slow aircraft), the moment they dropped the bombs, the enemy would be long gone from that location (moved to another area).

ur right!! as always lol! ^^

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Post  Snake on Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:09 pm

Hehehe lol! lol! lol!

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Post  F-35 Lightning II on Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:19 am

Bombing with heavy bombers would surely bring a intensity in the game... Thumbs Up!

For a defensive measures, the player should guard his airspace with his fighter aircraft so that no bees would flying around his units and seeing his units destroyed...

Fighter aircrafts will have a big role for defense and also for a better offensive....

That is 100% awesome! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!
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Post  Snake on Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:39 am

Thanks Thumbs Up! , fighters will be extremely valuable (in fact, fighters will be vital to protect AWACS - Airborne Warning and Control System - aircraft, which will serve as aerial command centers.

For more info on'em please check this post:
http://taow.simulationboard.com/member-s-access-f5/stryker-varients-work-in-progress-t138-45.htm#7685

A few hours ago we decided to fully include AWACS to do such duties (the ones numbered on the topic) sunny

Fighters will have an even more important role in the AWACS defense (and attack).

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Re: Dropping the MOAB

Post  La Ravenn! on Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:08 am

ahh speaking of carpet bombs, can the carpet bombing be more spread and realistic... you know... more like this:



For a true example of what I mean, take a look at this video from Blitzkrieg II

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-finest-hour/videos/tutorial-05-strategic-bombing

[just + damage and - the disable effect]
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Post  James100 on Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:31 am

La Ravenn! wrote:ahh speaking of carpet bombs, can the carpet bombing be more spread and realistic... you know... more like this:



For a true example of what I mean, take a look at this video from Blitzkrieg II

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-finest-hour/videos/tutorial-05-strategic-bombing

[just + damage and - the disable effect]

DEFINITELY! sunny
Our Carpet Bombings Will Be As Realistic As Possible, And Not Like Zero Hour Who Just Throw In 9 In A Row Evil or Very Mad
Also They May Be More Than One Type Of Carpet Bombing Run... Such As A High Speed Bombing Run (By The B-1B) Or Stealth Bombing Run (By The B-2A) Etc... You Get The Drift Razz
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Post  La Ravenn! on Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:35 am

yesss!

I hated that about zero hour... they carpet bombs dont even really do that much... just go in the STRAIGHTEST possible line and, for a circular radius icon, it only goes in a straight line which makes no sense... circle radius, line attack. It makes much more sense to have the bombs disperse and do more damage thoroughly! Im excited to see this.
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Post  Snake on Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:52 pm

Indeed, ZH's 'Carpet Bombing' is more like a conventional bombing with a fancy name.

We want to make tactical/heavy bombers more controllable by the player instead of just merely selecting a target, this is due to the fact that TAOW's battlefields will be very mobile and targets may require new target coordinates very regularly. The same also applies for the AC-130U gunship.

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